I'm a developer and have played a bit with the Evernote API.
It's very well put together, and they have a very good developer
relations person who can help with integration, a developer forum,
etc., so I hope this is considered seriously. Zendone seems to use
Evernote as it's way of managing tasks themselves rather than just
a repository for reference material (although that could be wrong
since I'm only going off that short video). But just having
Evernote accessible for longer and richer reference material,
attachments, etc., would be nice.
I think you are correct on how Zendone is going to use Evernote.
Not sure if I like their concept because it's split into different
applications to handle different parts of the GTD System. It could
be implemented in a very creative way so we must wait and see.
Evernote integration into an existing solid GTD app like Nirvana
would be fantastic.
Zen Done is coming out of alpha and into the beta in 2-3
Interesing to watch. This could be a major player soon if you
consider that Evernote has 12 milion users already (that is just
crazy..) and they will be getting promotion straight in Evernote
Trunk. That is some GOOD media exporsure 0_o
Sounds like a very good concept but with no android version it's
a none starter for me. Good to see the strides being made by task
managers these days though. Others will up their game as well no
doubt so it's all good.
@MarcinGTD, it looks like it's still closed beta, though. I have
yet to get an invite despite signing of for one a couple of months
ago. Did you just get one by email? Do you have any way to send
invites? Thanks. Although Zendone looks nice from what I've seen, I
think they only have an iOS mobile client, though, right? I assume
they have plans for Android, but if not then that would be a major
detractor for me...
I also played around with the Zendone beta, and this is very
promising. Evernote integration is second-to-none. You only have
one inbox for collecting everything, which is your Evernote default
inbox. This means that you can use any 3rd party app that supports
Evernote to collect to your GTD inbox, and then you can empty your
inbox using the same workflow in Zendone.
Google Calendar integration is great as well.
The two key things missing are repeated tasks and iOS apps.
Their website is impossible to use on iPhone/iPad. When this is
fixed, they will have one of the best GTD implementations out
@Proximo. Ah! For what it's worth, I haven't gotten one either.
But then I went ahead and read their blog and they are say that
they "will launch a bigger invitations round, early next week." So,
hopefully we'll get a shot at it in the next round!
I have been fortunate enough to get the beta invite last week. I
did submit my email to them early on, but I also pinged them
several times on Twitter and that is the medium through which they
actually sent me the invite. So if you are interested in trying
their service, they appear to be responsive to those with more
frequent communication on Twitter. However, they also said that
they'll be sending out a lot more invites early this week.
My limited experience with the service has been mostly good. It
is definitely a very polished beta with full-fledged Evernote and
Google Calendar integration. The Evernote integration is for the
most part really cool. However, one thing that I don't like about
the Evernote integration is that it is currently implemented in
such a way so that notes in Evernote are converted to become the
actual tasks in Zendone. There is currently no way to create a task
in Zendone and then associate an Evernote note with it as reference
material (though they say this functionality is coming).
Another thing to point out, is that the integration with
Evernote is so tight, that once you convert an Evernote note to an
action in Zendone, the name of the task in Zendone becomes the
title of the note in Evernote. The problem with this as I see it is
that all of your Evernote notes will end up having action-based
titles (e.g., "Send an email to John" or "Buy bread"). I personally
do not want my Evernote to be a repository of actions, but a
repository of reference material (e.g., notes with titles: "Things
to clarify with John" or "Grocery list"). However, I understand
that this is just my personal preference, and I suspect that the
service will be the perfect solution for many GTD users.
One last thing is that the elements of their user interface
(e.g., font size, row height) are quite large and the UI becomes a
bit crowded on smaller screens like my 13" macbook. I've shared all
of these points with the developers and they are very
For now, I think I'll be sticking with Nirvana. But it is nice
to be able to compare the two services. I sincerely hope that
Nirvana one day implements Evernote integration in some
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Phil. I did know about the
tight integration between Evernote and Zendone, and I suppose it
has plusses and minuses. As far as finding your to-do's when just
searching Evernote, have you actually tried this? I don't know if
it's possible yet, but I thought there was a plan to provide some
kind of field that would allow for filtering of such user-defined
(non-Evernote-intrinsic) notes, but I could be imagining
Levi, I'm not totally sure what you're asking but I'll take a
stab at an answer. The tasks created by zendone are also
automatically created in evernote and can be found in Evernote via
Evernote search. Evernote notes that are converted into tasks in
zendone remain in Evernote and can also be found via search.
Zendone also automatically creates tags in Evernote called
"zendone-action" and "zendone-completed." Zendone tasks in Evernote
are automatically tagged with these tags as you process and
complete tasks in zendone. So tasks could also be found in Evernote
by clicking on these tags.
@Phil, thanks, yeah, that's what I was wondering - whether it
did actually come up in searches or not - it was unclear from your
first message if you'd actually tested it or just assumed that
would happen. Thanks for clarifying. :)
Just going off the video it seems to be a very well thought out
implementation, using Evernote in a logical fashion to tie in with
the inherent task management and Google Calendar. I think Nozbe has
had the most logical implementation of those features until now. It
just goes to show despite the plethora of task managers out there,
there is still plenty of opportunity for the ones that get it right
to cash in. Without an android app though I'll just keep an eye
from the outside for now. Great concept though.
I received my invitation to the Zendone beta yesterday (they
must be sending out their second round of invitations).
Played around with it for about half an hour today. I have to
say (as Dafyren and Phil did earlier) that it looks very
There's a good integration with Evernote (but I really miss the
ability to add notes to a task from within the app itself). I
didn't test the Google Calendar integration as I don't use GCal
The UI is good, but can be improved upon (it's a beta after
all). Although the UI is different from Nirvana's (it has a a
completely different, more graphical feel to it), the two apps have
some design choices in common: in most cases, you are only shown
the info that you really need to see, and in creating and
processing tasks, mouse clicks are reduced to a minimum (in fact it
has much better keyboard support than Nirvana). Although the look
of Zendone is stylish, and very nicely done, at times I think it's
a bit distracting. I prefer Nirvana's calmer, (and also beautiful)
A few key things are still missing: recurrent tasks, mobile
access, etc. but it looks as if they are working hard to improve
and build upon the great foundation that they already have. I'm
curious to see where they'll stand six months from now.
In the mean time: Nirvana's still my favorite. :-)